Outside The Lines is a bi-weekly podcast featuring in-depth conversations with the most interesting figures in Hip-Hop

New episodes every other Tuesday

Latest Episode: Christopher Jackson

This week, we talk to Christopher Jackson, one of the lead actors in Broadway’s ‘Holler If Ya Hear Me’, the musical based on Tupac’s legacy. When ‘Holler If Ya Hear Me’ first hit Broadway, it was marketed as not just a story about Tupac’s music, but as a story about love — and that’s just what it is, a story about love within a world similar to that which Tupac lived, experienced, and rapped about. The play tackles issues such as gun violence, poverty, and racism head-on — all through the lens of a community that feels its pains together. ‘Holler’ is a play that fights against Broadway’s increasingly homogenized landscape, daring to tell a story that doesn’t fit into the cookie cutter Broadway mold.

We talked to Broadway vet Christopher Jackson, Vertus in the production, about Broadway’s changing landscape, the significance of co-star Saul Williams’ work as a slam poet and actor, the cultural relevance of Pac, and how ‘Holler”s reviews revealed an ugly truth about Broadway culture today.

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Past Episodes

072: Todd Kreidler

We talk with Todd Kreidler, writer of the Broadway musical inspired by Tupac's life, 'Holler If Ya Hear Me'.

071: Saul Williams

We talk with Saul Williams about his role in 'Holler If Ya Hear Me', the new musical based on the songs of Tupac Shakur.

070: YC the Cynic

We talk to YC the Cynic, ever-changing MC from the Bronx, whose new project, "GNK", sees the artist exploring how speaking through different perspectives can be equally personal and universal.

069: Gangsta Boo

This episode, we talk to legendary female MC Gangsta Boo, the first and only female member of Three 6 Mafia.

068: Grandmixer DXT

This episode, we talk to Grand Mixer DXT, the first DJ to ever rhythmically scratch a record on a turntable.

067: Nas - Illmatic

In a special edition of the OTL podcast, we host a live conversation with Nas about his iconic album, *Illmatic*, including questions from RG users and an audience Q&A.

066: Pharoahe Monch: PTSD

We spoke with Pharaohe Monch on new album *PTSD: Post Traumatic Stress Disorder*, how mental health affects the black community, themes of gun violence, sanity and insanity, dealing with depression, and the musical and thematic evolution of Pharaohe’s style.

065: Rakim

We talk to Rakim, the God MC, widely regarded as one of the most influential and most skilled MCs of all time.

064: Dan Charnas

We talk to Dan Charnas, an industry veteran, prolific music journalist, and most recently author of *The Big Payback* - the definitive history of hip hop business.

063: Loaded Lux

This episode of Outside the Lines, we talk to Harlem rapper Loaded Lux, considered a true pioneer and legend in battle rap.

062: Michael Watts

We talk to Michael Watts, legendary DJ and founder of Swishahouse Records, about everything from the origins of chopped and screwed music and "fuck actions" to and the rise of Mike Jones.

061: Robert Greene

We talk to writer Robert Greene, best-known for his first book, The 48 Laws of Power, a best-seller that took ideas from students of power names like Machiavelli and Sun Tzu and distilled their teachings into simple principles anyone can follow.